Removal of Gall Bladder (in the year of 1997)
戊 甲 戊 乙 Female (1975)
辰 辰 寅 卯
43 33 23 13 3
癸 壬 辛 庚 己
未 午 巳 辰 卯
We have touched on the health aspect of the above chart for the past few days. Now, who want to share with us on her marital relationship?
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26 comments:
Master Goh,
Out of curiosity, this lady is currently into water luck cycle fr age 33. Should her health not be worse off before she was 33 yrs old?
Rgds
karuna
Yes & No!
Yes in the sense she got her gall bladder removed during the 1st year of such luck cycle.
No as in it is also the Fire (午) luck cycle.
Hi Master Goh,
Currently, I think she should be single. Strong Wood DM must see Metal LP to activate marital luck.
Master Goh,
I think she should be married during the luck cycle from age 23? She might be an overbearing wife? She might have divorced at age 33?
karuna
Karuna & LadyGaga,
Both a right :)
She is CURRENTLY single.
She was married in the year of 1997 (丁丑), under the luck pillar of Xin Si (辛巳).
However, she divorced with her husband in the year of 2000(庚辰 - at the age of 26).
She has a daughter (born in the year of 1998 - 戊寅).
During the luck cycle of 辛巳, both the Spouse Star & Child Star appeared. This explains her marriage & having a kid during that luck cycle.
With the expiration of Xin metal luck, the marriage ends.
Hi Master Goh,
You replied:
However, she divorced with her husband in the year of 2000(庚辰 - at the age of 26).
I'm often confused whether a clash is good(marriage) or bad (divorce). I mean, she is a strong DM and should be able to take a clash...How do we see it is bad in this case? It can be a marriage, can it not - if she was still single at 26? Which year did she get married?
Master Goh, can we have a case study of a weak female DM. I want to learn how to read marriage in weak female DM.Thanks in advance.
LadyGaga,
Whether the clash is good or bad to the marriages depends on the result produced by such a clash.
In this instance, the DM is extremely strong. Hence, metal is considered favorable to help to maintain its equilibrium. Therefore, such a clash between the wood & metal produces desirable outcome which accountable for her marriage.
However, there is a term that you might have heard of :-
木旺金自缺 (The Energy of Metal is greatly diminished in the presence of Strong Wood).
The poor energy of metal does not exist (at all) in the natal chart. It only appeared &, then, disappeared during the luck cycle.
The above are the technical explanation from the perspective of clashes. But, if we were to view it from the perspective of personality, the picture would be very much clearer.
The DM is extremely stubborn & sensitive. Her mood swing like rollar coaster that even her mother can't tolerate. The divorce is expected. It is just a matter of timing.
What have you observed when I mentioned that her divorce took place in the year of 庚辰? The answer would provide you with an insight why her husband left her :)
Want to make a guess???
Hi Master Goh,
Thanks for your explanation :)
OK, shall guess ;)
Geng Chen year - Geng HS clashes Jia DM. Jia is overly strong and cannot be 'controlled'. Without Guan Sha in natal chart female also can be taken as 'does not respect authority/husband'? Chen annual year fu yin DB - Self Penalty. As such, she personally caused her marriage to fail?
Master Goh,
I think the lady has a 3rd party(boyfriend) in the year her husband divorced her?
karuna
Hi Master Goh,
How does a good clash look like? Care to give an example?
Thanks.
LadyGaga & Karuna,
LadyGaga have painted the picture very well in the factors (in term of her personality) contributed to her divorce. That is one of the main causes. BUT, where it took place in the year of Geng Chen?
Karuna's answer is closer to the actual fact - ie the appearances of 3rd party.
But, it was that her husband had met his 'true love', NOT the DM.
Have you seen that the Annual Luck Geng (Imposing Authority Deity = boyfriend or husband) combined with the Yi wood in the year stem. Typically, we termed it '比劫争夫' in Chinese. Literally, it mean : the Amiable & Competitive Deity are fighting for lover and husband.
Karuna's deduction is correct in the sense that there was a presence of Indirect Spouse Star (ie boyfriend) during that year.
However, given her strong character, I deduced that it was her husband that didn't feel the warm & love from the DM. Hence, any lady that is gentle (at least outwardly) would attract his attention.
At times, I would ask myself who exactly has to be responsible or blame for the separation or divorce?
That is life, that is bazi....
LadyGaga,
I do not have any illustration on hand at the moment (this is better than telling you that I am too lazy to look for one, hahaha...).
However, the guiding principle is such that if the unwanted element (ie unfavorable element) is being clashed away (be it within the natal chart or luck cycle), it is considered as a GOOD CLASH.
BUT, we have to bear in mind that clashes represents changes, fluctuation, challenges,...
Hence, eventhough the clash is 'good' (as it get rid of the unwanted element), changes & fluctuation can be expected as well.
In Chinese, we called it : 先难后易 (ie the person will have to solve the challenges first, before enjoying the good luck).
Master Goh,
Thank you for your sharings!
karuna
Hi Master Goh,
Thank you for your replies.
I hope you don't mind I dig abit deeper into the specifics.
Say a Strong female Jia DM, Yang Ren type of chart. Competing element Yi(yang ren) is not a favourable element and is clashed in the Natal by luck pillar/annual luck. Is it good? I asked this question cos I read some where that if ever Yang Ren is clashed, it is always bad esp. if it is the only root for the DM! Is it true?
How do we interprete such clash? Peer in trouble or Self in trouble? Or relationship with peer bad?
Thanks in advance.
LadyGaga,
If Yang Ren is the only root to the DM & is, therefore, favorable, the clash to it is undesirable.
Take a closer look to the meaning of the Chinese character 羊刃 (Yang Ren). It means knife. Hence, the clash to Yang Ren (esp when it is favorable) may imply accident.
It the yang ren is located in the Month Branch (representing sibling), it could be the sibling.
Also, when the Yang Ren is too strong in the natal chart, the DM can get hurt or accident relatively higher than those without. Even if the clash can reduce it intensity, there is still a price to pay for :(
Master Goh,
Yang ren means the element in month branch, right? When you say, Yang ren too strong, are you refeering to the chart with many competitive and amiable deities, and resources? If so, Yang Ren is unfavourable. Shouldn't this clash be good then? Won't resource help in bridging the clashing force?
Also, Yang ren for Jia is Mao(Yi), and always located in month branch, how can Day master get hurt (Day Master is Jia, not Yi) ?
Shouldn't only a clash in month branch of Amiable Chart Style (Jian Lu Ge) indicates day master will get hurt (clash in Yin[Jia])?
Regardless chart type, a clash in month could mean bad relationship with parent and peers, yes? Can it hint of parents passing?
Sorry for so many questions. Still reading up your books. And trying to understand concepts and reasoning.
Eagle8,
Yang Ren can appear in any of the branches. The Yang Ren that appear in the Month Branch is also known as 月刃 (read as 'Yue Ren').
Presence of a numbers of similar element can strengthen the energy of that particular element.
When certain element is too strong, it is good to have another controlling element to control it. BUT, not forgeting that the energy of that controlling element need to be strong as well to conquer the strong Yang Ren. If not, it would be 'killed' by the Yang Ren.
The entire 8 characters in the natal chart represents the DM. Any element (within the chart) being controlled do affect DM. Hence, we can't say that the clashes to Yang Ren does affect DM.
As for your understanding of the family relationship due to clashes between the month is not complete. If the DM is too strong & the month branch (representing parents) happened to be the element controlling the DM. We can conclude that the parents is performing their role as parents in disciplining the DM. It need not to be bad :)
Master Goh,
Thank you for your explanations. I think I need more :( , if you don’t mind…
Why is Yang Ren called knife? Why is “peer” be liken to knife? What about Yue Ren? This one just refers to DM has bad temper, right?
I do not understand why “The entire 8 characters in the natal chart represents the DM.” I thought they represent DM’s 6 relations (father, mother, siblings, spouse, children, another one is what, huh?help!)
What do you mean by : “If the DM is too strong & the month branch (representing parents) happened to be the element controlling the DM....”
Are you saying if month branch with Yue Ren is clashed by zhen guan, the parents are disciplining the DM? Or month branch is zhen guan?
Thank you.
Master Goh,
Since amiable deity is not 'knife', is Jian Lu Ge better than Yang Ren Ge?
In our 6th luck pillar, our month pillar always get clashed away. If it is Yue Ren, how do we interprete that? When we all reach our 60s, our parents may pass, right? Some say, it is 'mid life crisis'. Shouldn't 'mid life crisis' be when we are at our 40s?
Sorry for so many questions! Have a nice day!
Master Goh,
Talking about good clash, is the below consider a good clash?
X Gui Yi X
X Hai Si X
Luck Pillar Xin Hai
Gui born in Si needs to adjust temperature, right? Here Hai LP clashes away Si (unfavourable element)in Natal.
Thank you in advance.
Eagle8,
Yang Ren belongs to the system of Compound Stars (神杀). Literally, Ren (刃) means knife.
A knife can be useful or detrimental, right? When the DM is weak, Yang Ren can help to boost the energy of DM readily. It is just like peer helping DM relentless.
Yue Ren is merely a term describing the fact that the Yang Ren is located in the Month Branch. Of course, the Month Branch have greater impact to DM. When the DM is weak, but with a good support from Yue Ren, it is incorrect to conclude that the DM has bad temper. It is only when the DM is strong, then the Yue Ren can be redundant. Then, she/he can have bad temper.
Eagle8,
What do you mean by : “If the DM is too strong & the month branch (representing parents) happened to be the element controlling the DM....”
An illustration speaks 1000 words:-
Wood Wood Wood X
Water Wood Metal X
In the above illustration, the Wood DM is strong, metal is considered as favorable as it can control the over strong energy of Wood energy.
In this instance, the parents are performing their roles to discipline the DM.
Eagle8,
When the DM is weak, Yang Ren provides better support than Jian Lu.
Don't associate the clashes in 6th luck pillar as mid life crisis. It is totally different issues and are not related at all :(
It is true that 6th Luck Pillar clashes with Month Pillar (which happen to represent the Parents Palace). But that doesn't auto-suggest that the parents will pass away during that luck cycle.
But, if we were to put it in another perspective, our parents would be old when we reach our 6th pillar. Hence, it is quite common for us to face the reality of our life - the passing away of parents.
Eagle8,
X Gui Yi X
X Hai Si X
The information is insufficient to investigate whether the clash is good or bad.
In any case, don't dwell toooo... dip into the concept (ie Good Clash) mentioned by me causally :)
Instead, I observed that the Hai Water in LP clashes with the Fire (ie Wealth Star) in the Month Branch.
A few possibilities can look into :-
- wealth being affected ;
- wife being affected;
- father being affected.
Master Goh,
Thank you for all your answers!!!:)
Happy New Year to you and all your loved ones!
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