庚值寅而遇丙、主旺无危。
乙遇巳而见辛、身衰有祸。
摘自《继善篇》
Extracted from 'Ji Shan Pian'
Literal Translation & Interpretation:-
You maybe wondering the purpose of investigating the strength of the DM (namely, Bing & Ji) for the past 2-day postings.
Personally, I discovered that most of us are rather uncertain or lack of confident in determining the strength of DM. The recent postings (including today) shall provide you with better insight on the subject.
Instead of elaborating & explaining what render a Weak DM, I shall give examples for ease of understanding :-
Illustration 1 Weak Geng DM
X 庚 丙 X
X X 寅 X
Illustration 2 Weak Yi DM
X 乙 辛 X
X X 巳 X
FOOD FOR THOUGHT
~ ARISTOTLE ~
Happiness belongs to the self-sufficient
32 comments:
Master Goh,
my 2 cents.
Your first Illustration may also indicate this DM is born with a well to do family if the Yin quality is good. and if this DM is further strengthen by LP, or the other pillar in the 8z i think he / she can make money :)
Good morning Master Goh,
In your illustrations yesterday & today, DMs are weak because they are born "out of season". And they are further weakened by 七杀.
What if the DM has the bazi
x 丙 壬 x
x x 午 x
Will 七杀 be beneficial to him?
Regards
Nelson
Nelson,
Just image that in the hot weather (such as summer & noon time), water is very much needed & beneficial :)
Master Goh,
what if the DM bazi is
x 丙 癸 x
x x 未 x
do we still consider the DM as strong?
Regards
Nelson
Nelson,
Unable to answer to your question as there are only 3 characters :(
But, it is quite certain that Water is needed to cool down this hot chart.
Master Goh,
Apologise for being a bit ambiguous. I shall re-phrase it.
Question (1):
If a 丙 DM born in the summer months of 巳and午, can we automatically deduce that the DM is strong?
Question (2):
Although 未 is consider a summer month, its main 气 is 己Earth. So from your answer, we can only say that the chart is hot but we can't automatically say that DM is strong. We have to look at the entire chart to deduce the strenth of the DM, am I correct?
Regards
Nelson
Nelson,
Question 1 => We can only say that the chances is higher for DM to be a strong DM.
Question 2 => You are right, we still have to consider the entire chart in any situation.
BTW, do not dwell too much of your effort in determining the strength of the DM.
Hi Nelson,
Bing is born in the month of Yin and is Weak (deteriorating) in the month of Wei.
Ji is considered dry earth.
In order to assess the quality of Gui water in your example, examine the pillar Gui Wei. Gui is in its burial stage in the month of Wei. Therefore, Water is also of poor quality in this chart.
This is the reason why Master Goh said you have not provided sufficient information to assess the DM strength. However, we can say with certainty, that Water is definitely needed to cool and add humidity to this chart based on the information you have provided.
It is best to use the 12 Qi life stages when it comes to assessing DM strength, especially when the DM is untimely or not in season, i.e. not at either stage 4 (Entry) or 5 (Peak).
We factor the season, and the support DM receives from earth branches, and pillars when it comes to assessing DM strength. This is best accomplished from a complete BaZi chart.
Hope this helps,
Sanjay
Thank you Master Goh and Sanjay for your comments and pointers.
Regards
Nelson
Hi Nelson,
You are welcome.
The sentence "Ji is considered dry earth" should actually read "Ji in Wei is considered dry earth"
Best,
Sanjay
Sanjay,
how about this Chart, born 13 June 1978 between 10am - 11.30 am (male)
It looks quite hot, but there is a Yin water in the hour heavenly stem. Base on your understanding with the luck pillars is this a good/lucky chart etc?
Sorry...Sanjay its 9.30am to 10.30 am,
how about this Chart, born 13 June 1978 between 9.30am - 10.30 am (male)
It looks quite hot, but there is a Yin water in the hour heavenly stem. Base on your understanding with the luck pillars is this a good/lucky chart etc?
Master Goh,
how about this Chart, born 13 June 1978 between 9.30am - 10.30 am (male)
It looks quite hot, but there is a Yin water in the hour heavenly stem. Base on your understanding with the luck pillars is this a good/lucky chart etc?
Chew,
Would appreciate if you could erect & show us the full bazi :)
Master Goh,
What does Chen-Chen Punishment mean? Does the degree of impact vary depending on the strength of the DM or is it the same? Do we view this punishment as always negative or is it dependent on Chen being favorable or unfavorable?
I think in a clash is can vary depending on if the element being clashed is favorable or unfavorable as determined by the strength/temperature of the DM.
Thanks,
Lugrey
Hi Master Goh,
Below is the chart as you required. June 13 1978, 9.30-1030am
癸 丙 戊 戊
巳 午 午 午
Luck Pillar Periods
28 Xin / You
38 Ren/ Xu
48 Gui/ Hai
58 Jia/Zi
68 Yi/ Chou
Question:
Is this chart a lucky chart?
1.) At age 28, there seems to be a pure metal luck pillar, what happens during this period? able to make money? if so in what way?
2) The chart seems to be very dry n hot, so when it reaches the water pillar 48, alot of people say life will be better, or balance, but in what way will it be better?
3) At 58, There is Jia/Zi which has water n wood element, is the chart still benefiting from the water element since there are clashes between the Zi and Wu of the bazi?
Thank you master.
Hi chew, your chart is 50% similar to mine.:)
壬 癸 戊 戊
戌 亥 午 午
wood = 用神 (Yong Shen)
water = 喜神 (Xi Shen)
Since wood is my 用神 (Yong Shen), does that mean the metals are the bad deities? By logic, shouldn't the metal be good for my chart since i am a weak water DM? Will i be in bad luck when i undergo the metal LP? Does Master Goh or anybocy knows?
Regards,
BG
Hi Chew,
癸 丙 戊 戊
巳 午 午 午
You have a very interesting chart. Bing is at Stage-5 (peak) in the month of Wu. Wu+Si+Wei make seasonal combo. Wei is missing in natal chart. However, there is sufficient Ji in DP, MP, and YP. There is also very little Water in chart (Gui is at Stage-11 in Si). This water is of poor quality, i.e. very few clouds in sky, however it can be meddlesome to Bing as clouds can cover sunlight. The structure of your chart is strong Fire (Competitive deity or Rob Wealth). Fire and Earth dominate your chart and will tend to define many themes in your life.
I am almost tempted to classify your chart as Domineering Fire type. However, as Gui is present in chart, I'll classify it as a very strong Fire DM. Your feedback will help determine the actual chart classification. Hopefully, Master Goh will agree.
Bing Wu is a solid pillar of Fire. The Sun is so high that there is no one else out there. It can often be lonely when perched so high :)
More for later.
Best,
Sanjay
Lugrey,
You asked & you have answered it by yourself :)
Agreed with you full-heartedly.
Hi Master Goh,
Could i have your feedback as well for the chart? Thank you
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Hi Master Goh,
Below is the chart as you required. June 13 1978, 9.30-1030am
癸 丙 戊 戊
巳 午 午 午
Luck Pillar Periods
28 Xin / You
38 Ren/ Xu
48 Gui/ Hai
58 Jia/Zi
68 Yi/ Chou
Question:
Is this chart a lucky chart?
1.) At age 28, there seems to be a pure metal luck pillar, what happens during this period? able to make money? if so in what way?
2) The chart seems to be very dry n hot, so when it reaches the water pillar 48, alot of people say life will be better, or balance, but in what way will it be better?
3) At 58, There is Jia/Zi which has water n wood element, is the chart still benefiting from the water element since there are clashes between the Zi and Wu of the bazi?
Thank you master.
Hi Sanjay,
Thank you for your feedback. Very deep, i nearly lost you there lol.
Here's what i gather from the person
1) Works for a boss
2) Works in the beverage industry
3) Has alot of ideas/plans but execution is halted sometimes
4) Has many gfs
5) Always during the metal,water months things are better, but quarellsome or petty issues arise during the wood n fire months.
Could you explain the luck pillar periods for me?
Luck Pillar Periods
28 Xin / You
38 Ren/ Xu
48 Gui/ Hai
58 Jia/Zi
68 Yi/ Chou
Also what are the robwealths and their issues with the DM? what is the relationship?
Chew,
Sanjay have painted your chart appropriately :)
Personally, I would think that your chart needs Wet Earth, Metal & Water.
I would deem that Xin You (LP) + the water annual luck cycle for the last 3 years would be smooth in term of wealth.
However, you are a person with strong character & is a risk taker. The more you gain monetarily, the more ambitious you would be. Refrain from making risky investment for the coming years as Wood is going to intensify the Fire, which will 'rob' the wealth.
As for the luck cycle of Water, my observation is that there is an intense fight between Water & Fire.
Good or Bad? Really, I have no idea. Why did I say that?
According to the theory of The Book of Changes (Yi Jing), the last 2 hexagrams are known as 水火既济 & 水火未既
Water & Fire represent 2 opposing natural elements. The relationship can be harmonious or unharmonious. Hence, the outcome can either be good or bad. This very much depends on individual.
Your chart is extremely hot & dry. Water is needed for sure. However, once the water is pour onto the fire, the fight emerges.
There is a term in bazi to describe it : 犯旺 (the weak is provoking the strong). Hence, fluctuations can be expected.
Also, human has the tendency to be more and more stubborn as we get older. By then, if you are able to control it, things would (of course) be better.
In short, a combination of Metal & Water as favorable elements is definitely better than just the water alone.
This is a hot & dry chart, avoid:-
- alcoholic drinking
- smoking
- taking junk (esply fried & oily) food
- speeding
- sleeping late
Normally, individuals with hot & strong chart tend to do otherwise.
By saying so, my advice to you & the rest is that :-
Bazi (& other metaphysics) points to possible events that might occur in the future. Use that as a guide & reference.
If the future is promising, do your preparation now.
If it doesn't look promising & is doomy, try to overcome it.
Hence, do not dwell too much on good or bad luck. Do something to make it happen :}
BG,
Can you please share with us what made you say that Wood is the favorable element?
Master Goh,
I'm sorry but are you are saying that punishment works the same way a clash does, so there's a chance punishment can be a good thing?
Also still do not know what the impact of Chen-Chen is?
Thanks,
Lugrey
Lugrey,
Put it simply, punishment creates uncertainties. But, is not as severe as clashes.
As for the Chen-Chen, it has to depends on the deities it belongs to.
If it is Resources Deity, one of the possibilities might be thinking too much and create disturbance for himself/herself.
Master Goh,
If Hot and Dry chart not suitable for smoking, is it Wet and Cold chart can smoke? (less harm from smoking)?
Don't worry, this is not asking you for 'permission' to smoke, just wondering what is the effect from bazi viewpoint :)
Master Goh,
If a DM is a strong Ren Chen, Chen is at the Spouse Palace, which is earth also represents career/pressure. The month is Yi You. During the LP Wu Zi, when Chen arrives do I view it as an impact on the Spouse palace or Career? Or should the HS arriving with Chen be the indicator?
Thank you for your guidance
Lugrey
Andy,
It is theoretically sound & true :)
Lugrey,
Both will be affected :)
Chen (i.e. Career) having punishment relationship with the Chen in the Spouse Palace may imply the work & the pressure affecting the marital relationship. As mentioned it is considered as minor form of clashes. So, the disagreement from the spouse may be work related.
Andy,
If your bazi is wet and cold,you tend to cough more easily or get a flu easily,so no matter what chart is it,smoking is not good for health.
Master Goh,
No doubt that wood will weaken my already weak DM. But in this case Wood is needed to control the excessive Earth in my Bazi chart. So i believe Wood is favourable element. As well as water to strengthen my weak DM and cool down the hot chart. What do you think?
Regards,
BG
BG,
Just my opinion;
Although wood can control earth, but it also exhausts the already weak water DM, and also feeds the Fire, thereby making the chart even hotter.
Water will be more favorable as it will assist the DM resist the earth, and control the fire at the same time.
Metal is secondarily important because it can feed water and exhaust the earth and fire.
TH Teo,
Thanks for your healthy reminder... Haha :)
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